Historically Mirpur was a district of the Princely State of Jammu & Kashmir. It was one district out of fourteen all spread out across 3 Provinces of unequal size and importance. In size, Mirpur District was approximately under 1700 square miles. Jammu & Kashmir State was approximately 84 – 86000 square miles; the Frontier Province accounted for the majority of the State’s landmass but a tiny proportion of the State’s population. The State’s borders in the North as they merged with Tibetan Plateau were never formally ‘assigned’ to the territorial powers of the day which accounts for the ambiguous nature of the Princely State’s actual size and China’s ongoing territorial dispute with India.

The configuration of Mirpur District was geo-administrative which means the ‘Rulers’ of the State divided up their territory and appointed officials to better manage, control and tax it. Like most ‘villages’, ‘towns’, ‘cities’, ‘districts’ or ‘provinces’ in any part of the world, there was no fixed size of the ‘area’ that the ‘inhabitants’ could claim as their own. This is about governance and ‘control’ by which the rulers get the most out of their territorial assets; no regard is paid for the people living in the designated spaces. To tax an ‘area’ comprehensively, you need to be able to see it on a map, and if you control tens of thousands of square miles, the task requires local actors ready to do the ruler’s bidding.

This is Mirpur’s history and the history of Jammu & Kashmir. The ordinary peoples of Jammu & Kashmir and the tribes of Mirpur were never reconciled with the new rulers of the territory and their local ‘clients’.

But, the actual founding of Mirpur and I’m strictly speaking about the original tribal principality from which the name of the later District was derived, predated the emergence of the Princely State by many hundreds of years. From the anecdotes at our disposal, and the historical archive of the Mughals who ruled these mountainous (‘Pahari’) lands beyond the lowland Plains of India, it would appear that Mirpur was founded in the middle of the 17th century by a Gakhar tribesman by the name of ‘Mir’ Shah Ghazi. The actual coinage of ‘Mirpur‘ refers to the settlement or ‘fortification’ (‘Pur’) of Mir. Whether there is any truth to the account, we know that Mirpur was a small principality inhabited by tribesman fighting other tribesman subsumed within a shared system of patronage, who were eventually vanquished.

There are other locally-sourced anecdotes about the origin of Mirpur that connects the area with Hindu-Muslim conviviality. It was claimed that the word ‘Mir’-‘Pur’ derived from the names of two saints, the one Muslim and the other Hindu. Before the partition of the subcontinent, Mirpur had a thriving Hindu community of affluent merchants and money-lenders who were forced from their homes and later resettled in Jammu, Indian-administered-Kashmir.

Of course there are many cities, towns and villages all over South and Western Asia named ‘Mirpur’. ‘Mir‘ is a popular name in the subcontinent and the Iranian Plateau and these various towns and cities named Mirpur have no relation with the ‘Mirpur’ of Jammu & Kashmir. A lot of online searches, images and content relate to these areas and not the ‘Mirpur’ of this post.

Mirpur within the Context of Jammu & Kashmir State

The Princely State of Jammu & Kashmir was founded by an Act of Treaty between the ‘East India Company’ and ‘Raja Ghulab Singh’ signed on 16 of March 1846.

In description, the actual lands of the State that included Mirpur were described as,

“the hilly or mountainous country with its dependencies situated to the eastward of the River Indus and the westward of the River Ravi including Chamba and excluding Lahol, being part of the territories ceded to the British Government by the Lahore State according to the provisions of Article IV of the Treaty of Lahore, dated 9 March 1846”

No provision was ever made for the welfare of the ordinary people forced into this new territorial union.

For his part, Raja Ghulab Singh had been a client or feudatory of the Sikh Confederacy, the previous rulers of ‘the hilly or mountainous country’ that made up substantial areas of the new ‘Kingdom’. Following the defeat of the Sikh Confederacy during the first Anglo-Sikh war (11 November 1845 – 09 March 1846) aided in large part by Raja Ghulab Singh to the advantage of the East India Company, these lands were subsequently ‘transferred’ and ‘made over’ to him for an agreed price. Maharaja Ghulab Singh became the first ruling monarch of the new State with all the accoutrements of royal titles and gun salutes.

The District of Mirpur (‘Zillah’) came into existence some years later, and was added to the Jammu Province (‘Subah’). It was made up of smaller tribal principalities that included for instance ‘Khari Khariyali’ and ‘Bhimbar’ that had been ruled earlier by the ‘Chibh’ Tribe. The later British designation ‘Chibhan’ based on earlier Mughal configurations of ‘Chibhal’, or ‘Jibhal’ was expanded to include an even wider area. For this reason, Mirpur District’s geographical size, or administrative form as a geo-administrative entity does not tell us anything about the people who were subsumed within it however we imagine the ‘Mirpuri’ label today.

In the centuries that followed, the small principality became a major conurbation from which many British-Paharis now claim their descent. Of the many stokers working on British merchant ships docked in Bombay during the latter half of the 1800s and the ‘Kashmiri‘ soldiers who fought in both World Wars had their roots in ‘Mirpur’. The neighbouring area of Poonch was also an important recruitment area for the British Indian Army once restrictions were lifted from recruiting outside British India. It does not come as a surprise to learn that the valley communities of Mirpur and Poonch have always had a shared history that stretches back many hundreds of years.

The smaller principalities that made up Mirpur District were in fact much older than the original tribal principality of Mirpur, and can be referenced in the documents of the Mughals. For instance, ‘Andarhal’ and ‘Kotli’ are mentioned in the ‘Ain-e-Akbar’ of the ‘Akbarnama’ of the Great Mogul King Akbar, (1556 – 1605). This Persian text was compiled during the 1590s. It is said of Bhimbar and Khari Khariyali according to the Tawarikh-e-Rajgan, Zilla Kangra, a history of Kangra’s ruling tribes, another Himalayan region eastwards that both principalities were founded some time during the 1400s.

Whenever we speak of ‘Mirpur’ within the context of ‘Kashmir State’, we are speaking about pre-modern governance models. Mirpur District was significant to the State as it generated considerable agricultural taxes in addition to being an important recruitment ground for the British Indian Army. Kashmir State had limited cultivable lands, and many of these were situated in the southern portions of the new district. These lands were some of the most fertile in the entire State producing harvests that could be taxed lucratively. A lot of these lands were taxed to the hilt by the State’s rulers and their local sinecures. Their owners became prey to unscrupulous money lenders who through the former’s desperation managed to misappropriate parts of these lands by false pretences.

Mirpur within the Context of “Azad” Jammu & Kashmir

A decade or so after the demise of the Princely State, Pakistan’s officials in ‘Azad’ Jammu & Kashmir unilaterally decided to build a Dam in Mirpur to help irrigate the Plains of the Panjab whilst producing cheap electricity. The construction of the Mangla Dam between 1961 and 1967 flooded the most fertile lands in the entire polity of ‘Azad’ Kashmir. More than a 110 thousand people were uprooted and nearly 300 villages were destroyed. The local infrastructure of Mirpur and the surrounding countryside was decimated.

Some decades later in 2007, another 40 thousand people were displaced to make way for the expansion of the Dam. Its mismanagement and the enormous cost borne by ordinary people in Mirpur has been a source of constant friction between them and Pakistan Officialdom. The people of Mirpur were never consulted in the construction of the Dam, and numerous international studies have shown that they were inadequately compensated if not compensated at all. It is generally accepted by those observing the Kashmir Conflict that the political leadership of ‘Azad’ Jammu & Kashmir is treated contemptibly by their Pakistani overlords. Pakistan Officialdom has shown little concern for the welfare of ordinary inhabitants, a fact that has not gone unnoticed by international journalists and writers.

Migration to lands outside the erstwhile Mirpur Division has been a lifeline for the communities of ‘Azad Jammu & Kashmir. The remittences they have channelled back to their extended families and the money invested particularly in Mirpur has given the area some semblance of prosperity. In contrast, Pakistan Officialdom has disinvested ‘Azad’ Jammu & Kashmir allocating its tiny resources to the more affluent parts of Pakistan. Had there been no migratory outlets for the people of this area, the situation in Mirpur and the wider area would have been dire.

In appraising this history, there is nothing especially remarkable or unique about the settlement of Mirpur, whether as a small tribal polity or a political sub-division of a larger territory to warrant its people as ‘locals‘ or ‘emigrants‘ a special status, good or bad in comparison with neighbouring hill principalities and hill communities. Today, the majority of individuals with roots to erstwhile Mirpur Division actually live in the Diaspora. Britain has the largest Mirpuri community anywhere in the world, and there is also a sizeable Mirpuri community in Indian ‘Jammu’ originally comprised mostly of Hindu and Sikh refugees.

But, expectedly, there is no such thing as a ‘Mirpuri’ ‘people’ or a ‘Mirpuri’ ‘language’ and/or dialect sui generis. To use a modern analogy, to speak of Mirpuris in these terms by virtue of their origin in the Princely State of Jammu & Kashmir is akin to speaking of regional communities in England seperate to or exclusive of the wider English people that live beyond the city of Bristol.

It is absurd to categorise or think of the inhabitants of Mirpur as an ethnic community, social group or fringe people as distinct from related-ethnic communities in a broad area that includes the Pothohar Uplands and the Hazara Hills. Granted that the Mirpuri label is very recent in origin it is also misleading and value-laden.

Many British-Mirpuris are however becoming conscious of the label and are using it as a badge of self-affirmation to connect them with the heritage of their forebears. In this respect, the label is essentially ‘positive’ as it empowers a mostly British-born community to demand recognition on the basis of its community’s emerging ‘identity’ in the UK.

For all the wrong reasons, the term has become popular in British-Pakistani circles as a designation for British-Paharis. The district of Mirpur by virtue of its connection with ‘Azad’ Jammu & Kashmir and the wider Kashmir conflict has a chequered past, creating dynamics that have pitied Pahari-Mirpuris against Pakistan officialdom.

Mirpuris are Paharis and the language they speak is called Pahari. Mirpur is a small part of a much vaster region we call the Pahari-cultural-sphere otherwise known natively as the ‘Pahari-Patwari Ilaqa’. One cannot understand the culture and history of Mirpur without understanding the history of the wider area. The Kashmir Conflict complicates this undertaking all the more.

Related posts; The History of Mirpur as told by Mirpuris and not Wikipedia

The View from “Azad” Jammu Kashmir; Myth making and territorial claims; whose “Kashmir” is it?

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Associate Editor and researcher at the Portmir Foundation. Born and raised in England. Parents from Pakistan-administered-Jammu, from Mirpur which is not part of Kashmir Province or the Valley – these are themselves separate places; Mirpur is part of the disputed territory of Jammu & Kashmir “STATE”.

Love literature, poetry, film, art, music, sufism, Islam, travel, free thought, liberalism, and lots of other things. Have a particularly strong desire to learn about Indian history, the place my forbears are from, and I have no qualms identifying with India – partition made us ‘Pakistanis’ – not necessarily those of ‘us’ from ‘Azad’ Kashmir. I think partition was a bad idea, but I’m not averse to Pakistan either. I’m happy to have multiple identities and love the Pakistan of the ordinary person – the real Pakistan of the ordinary man, woman and children.

Okay, the official bit…

My opinions are not necessarily those of the Portmir Foundation; the Foundation does not do censorship and neither does it endorse my opinions; if you disagree with any us, and you’re from our background, write your own opinion piece and we’ll publish it.

15 COMMENTS

  1. Mirpuris and the all the other Azad Kashmiris got jack **** from Pakistan.

    Instead in Britain we get insults instead.

    Sums up what Pakistan is.

  2. Just go on to twitter and you’ll discover how rampant the hate is. I’ve tried to challenge it even as I try to challenge hatred against Islam from the far-right extremists but I’m a lone voice when it comes to defending my own community. Everyone seems to have an opinion on Mirpuris and when I mean everyone, I’m really speaking about British-Pakistanis, ‘Patwaris’, ‘caste-Kashmiris’, ‘Panjabis’, ‘Pathans’, who want to tell us who we are even as they know nothing about their own identities LITERALLY NOTHING. Most of these ‘Panjabi’ caste-Kashmiris don’t even know they have roots in the Pahari areas of Jammu & Kashmir, they think they all descend from Valley-Kashmiris who historically were treated horribly because of their occupational backgrounds, but now think they are important because India and Pakistan is fighting over ‘Kashmir’ (i.e., 85000 square miles of territory; neither country cares about the people stuck between the LOC). They don’t know that their ‘Kashmiri’ caste-backgrounds were adopted by their predecessors fleeing from their former lives, nor do they know that colonial writings exist explaining how this happened. It was colonial administrators who created a blanket ‘Muslim Kashmiri’ label for census purposes in Jammu & Kashmir State and they noted how in subsequent censuses the numbers exponentially increased over and beyond natural growth projections. Everyone who was landless, poor, whether in the Vale or outside it, started to identify as ‘Muslim Kashmiri’; no one wanted to be returned as a butcher, weaver, boatmen etc. The landed castes (Zamindar) including the Kashmiri Pandits continued to self-affirm on the basis of their own clan and caste backgrounds. It didn’t mean that all the ‘Muslim Kashmiris’ were all ethnic ‘Kashmiris’ from the higher castes. How many of these caste-Kashmiris are aware of this history, LITERALLY UNAWARE OF THEIR PEOPLE’S DISPOSSESSION. There is a reason why so many people fled ‘Kashmir’ during its many famines; poor people were treated like slaves abused by the State. There are people dying in the Valley today, but these Pakistani caste-Kashmiris seem obsessed with racial fantasies of who Kashmiris are even as they have no connections with the Vale. One girl told me Mirpuris “aint Kashmiris cus they look like Punjabis”, she had her picture up claiming to be a “real Kashmiri”, and it didn’t even occur to her how contradictory her statement was. When I made reference to her appearance as proof that she didn’t even look like the ‘real’ Kashmiris of her imagination, she seemed lost for words accusing me of hate. I told her to google the pictures of Valley Kashmiris to realise how silly her impressions were, she blocked me. They seem to be obsessed with imaginary ‘racial’ and ‘cultural superiority’ ideas never having questioned the anecdotes they’ve inherited from their parents. Their bigotry is so shallow, that they’re quite insecure when they have no responses. A lot of the…”Mirpuris are not Kashmiris” comments are coming from these people.

    When you question them, you quickly realise how ignorant they are, and then they complain that they are the ‘victims’ as they spurt out horrible statements about our community. What kind of ‘British-Pakistani’ community is this that we supposedly belong to? I am sick and tired of it, and so this website is a breath of fresh of air and I have learnt a lot from it. There needs to be more focus on the heritage, language and culture, although I’m happy with how the politics of AJK is explained. We have our own community in the UK and we should focus on that now. Plus our loyalty should be to the people of AJK and not Pakistan because no one cares for AJK in Pakistan; Pakistan’s Government is merely destabilising AJK to the disadvantage of its own people.

    • Also I need to add, this one ‘Patwari’ girl told me that I wasn’t a Pahari but a ‘Mirpuri’! Can you believe how deluded some people are, their parents have been insulting our parents for being Pahari (‘hillbilly’) for decades usually behind their backs in their little ‘Pakistani’ bubbles, overcompensating to fit in, and now they are telling us we’re not Pahari but Mirpuri, as if there is something more negative about being ‘Mirpuri’ than ‘Pahari’! Are these people for real. Obviously she doesn’t know the internal configuration of Mirpur Division to realise how stupid her comments are, or that there is no distinction between ‘hills and mountains’ in Indo-Aryan languages, the Pahar as typography and landscape is distinct from Plains. But this is what we’re dealing with, some of the most deluded people you could imagine advising everyone else about our nefarious activities. Mirpuris need to start speaking out, they’ve been demonising us for decades, and we didn’t even know about it, and now as one of the posts here explained, their baseless allegations are seeping into the mainstream. Mirpuris need to wake up and smell the coffee.

  3. Plus I should add your tweets are good, keep up the good work. Hopefully more of us will be joining you, so don’t lose hope.

  4. CORRECTION. Its not all British Pakistanis. Its just bigots. Ignorant bigots hiding behind computer screens.

    A lot of these social media profiles spurting hatred against Mirpuris seem fake. Just putting that out. There is something sinister going on. There are British Pakistanis involved but they are just really ignorant of how dangerous their words are becoming. Some of them want retweets, so they think its funny to insult Mirpuris. They are coming across as morons. Let their words expose them.

    We can very easily insult them and make them feel small, knowing what we know of their backgrounds and where they come from. But what is that going to prove? And how are we going to be different?

    Are you going to fight every ignorant person out there who insults Mirpuris?

    Pathans for decades were insulted by different Pakistani ethnic groups. The things that were said about Pathans were a lot worse than what is being said about Mirpuris, that they sell their daughters for dowries – outrageous lies against this community, did you see Pathans going on the offensive?

    Panjabis for decades were insulted for speaking a “disgusting” language, for being “Pindoos”, and this from their Urdu-speaking brothers who tried banning the Sindhi language in Karachi. It’s only some Panjabis who insult Mirpuris, there’s loads from the same clan backgrounds as Mirpuris who feel close to Mirpuris.

    Are these not our brothers and sisters?

    You think Urdu speakers don’t get insulted in Pakistan as everyone laughs at them for thinking they are sophisticated because they speak Urdu!. Yes, this is also prejudice, but it exists. People who point the fingers, forget about how others perceive them.

    Plus Patwaris are us, so how can Patwaris attack us? We are the same people? The same applies to Hindko speakers and the Hindkowan, they belong to our ethnic group. Patwaris feel much closer to Mirpuris than they do with other Pakistanis.

    Educate these people. That’s the way forward. We are all Pakistanis. Even if you are independence Kashmiris, we are all Muslims, have we forgotten our Deen? We need to unite, not go on the offensive.

  5. Gujar,
    Although I agree with you and do support Pakistan as opposed to a free state of Kashmir and although I identify primarily as a Pakistani rather than a Kashmiri, I think you will find that our reactions to hate aimed at us has been very measured and not harsh.
    Pathans have been accused of selling their daughters as they have a dowry system that was abused and used to sell their daughters and they reacted by supporting racist and facist parties like ANP and PKMAP and now with this new racist movement called PTM ( they kicked out a person with a Pakistani flag at their rally in Swat). I do not think giving pathans is a good example and neither are Mahajars who set up a racist party called MQM, and advocate for a seperate province for Mahajars.

    I think that to date Mirpuris have been most generous in spirit and have not reacted with hostility to other Pakistanis in anywhere near the same way as Pathans and Mahajars have.

    However it is our duty to respond to false accusations made against us with vigour.

    BTW Gujar I will disagree with you on one other point, the potoharis that you refer to have been very anti mirpuri, especially people from Pindi district. I do not know how we belong to their ethnic group as well, maybe some linguistic similarlities but no more.

    • Jatt,
      I have cousins in Patwar. Are you telling me you dont have cousins, family or someone not married from the Patwar? I have yet to come across Mirpuris who dont have some sort of connection with Patwar and the rest of Pakistan.

      There are Patwaris who belittle Mirpuris, Patwaris have told me this themselves. Are Mirpuris any different? We have our share of idiots too. Educated, professional Patwaris are not proud of this because they, like us, understand this self-hatred. This isn’t fault of all Pakistanis, just as it isn’t fault of Patwaris, or Panjabis or Urdu speakers? No one has educated them about how moronic they sound when they insult ordinary people because of their culture, language, or where they come from. Why are they insulting such people?

      Because it makes them feel good about themselves perhaps because they want to hide their roots and pretend they come from aristocracy lol when we know where they come from?

      Im saying, lets educate these people. We dont need to go on the offensive. What is that going to solve?

      My point is where did all these city people come from, before they adopted Urdu as their Maadri Zabaan lol? When u think of it like that, it does make sense. Patwaris are not from cities. Pindi is not a city. I know that, you probably know that, every Patwari/Pahari out there knows that. If it was a city, why do Islamabad people make fun of Pindi people? I remember when the Centurion opened in Islamabad, they were trying to BAN Rawalpindi people from coming by charging them entrance fees lol; why do the faces of Islamabad city people drop when British-Mirpuris start speaking to them in English as they want to speak English with their own families around their own dinner tables, PARSE ME DE SALT DEER LOLOLL? And they want to hate on Mirpuris?

      Jatt, lot more going on in Pakistan than Patwaris being anti-Mirpuri?

      So is this really about cities, or about something else – like prejudice, bigotry, hatred, fakeness, to separate people into village and city identities? Where is Islamabad again? Most of it is in the Patwar as the rest of it falls in Hazara – in our ethnic homeland. Before these Urdu speakers came here, what was the language and culture of the people. Lots of the natives adopting Urdu now, what about their “simpleton” grandparents? If they want to call us Pindoos, they should call their ancestors Pindoos too and insult them and write about their grandads on twitter too lolol:), and say their ancestors were cousin-shaggers.

      They are ignorant. They need educating thats all.

      There are Patwaris who know 100% when Pakistanis insult Mirpuris, they are insulting Patwaris, Hindko speakers as well – their parents, grandparents and others are being insulted directly in front of their faces, including the Chachis, and the speakers of all the other dialects in this area. But these “modern Panjabis” convince themselves that the haters are hating Mirpuris and then they join in. It’s just ignorant behaviour.

      My Patwari friends have explicitly told me they feel more comfortable with Mirpuris than with other “Panjabis”, even as they call themselves Panjabis. May be you have different experiences. May be there are Patwaris who don’t like us, and don’t feel part of us, I couldn’t care. Personally I haven’t met any other than a few bigoted ones I put straight. But to me, we are all one people, Mirpur is in Jammu Kashmir, just as Rawalpindi is in the Panjab, and the Hazara areas are in Khyber Pakhtunkwa; about time we start learning about our culture and where it spreads! It doesn’t mean we’re not the same people. I am proud I come from this cultural area, even as I recognise our future is in the UK now and we should be focusing on the issues here in the UK.

      Let the haters hate, their hatred will consume them. We don’t need to go on the offensive. By the way dont believe everything said about Pathans or Muhajir, its the same people hating on Mirpuris, who used to hate on these groups back in the days. This hatred feels the same, looks the same, just the identities being attacked change. They will find another group once they’ve finished with Mirpuris; if they were white, I bet you they would have joined the racists and gone Paki-bashing. They are confused, need educating.

  6. Salaam Gujjar,
    Although I do agree with you on the inter-ethnic contentions between different groups in Pakistan, I don’t really feel that is an apt metaphor for what is happening in Britain. What’s really being discussed here is the views of mainland Pakistanis against Mirpuris in a British-Pakistani context. Here we don’t have the multiple villains that you have in Pakistan that allows various elements in one group to talk s*** about the other. In fact this is a one sided rivalry of mainland Pakistanis against Mirpuris which has been going on for decades, and it’s only being responded to now. Whereas Mirpuris have always been willing to take collective responsibility for everything that is done by ‘Pakistanis’, it is the Brit-Pakistani who is quick to draw distinctions between themselves and Mirpuris whenever they suspect we may have tarnished their pristine reputation by being involved in some misdemeanor or other.

    I mean, I have yet to hear a Mirpuri, when being accused of raping and killing 3 million Bengalis say “That’s not us, that was the Punjabis…”. Ditto for suicide bombings, 7/7 etc etc. We have always seen ourselves as Pakistanis and the failings of other Pakistanis are our collective failings which we need to improve on and do better..

    The same cannot be said for many Brit-Pakistanis who are more than willing to throw us under the bus at any opportunity they get, but will defend any other fellow Pakistani when they feel they are being attacked for their ethnic background. What exactly does this say about their mentalities? For me, it says they don’t really consider us one of them i.e a fellow countrymen, in the same way we see them as our fellow countrymen.

    And you will find that because of this echo chamber of hate against the unsuspecting Mirpuri, completely unaware of how his “fellow countrymen” truly perceived him, and the wide scale use of the internet, these ideas are actually growing, especially among politically minded people in Pakistan-India and their diasporas.

    • Wa alaikum as-salaam Faisal brother

      Fair points. I cant disagree with what you said. But let me explain what I am saying.

      Like Jatt Punyal, You, writers of the posts here, many others FROM our Community, this anti-Mirpuri “whatever it is” – how do we describe this online hate? I’m speechless, it is outrageous, vile shit, made up crap about us, our parents, culture, language, our nefarious ways, we are being accused for every crime under the sun. all of us would agree there’s a problem. And these racist views are entering the mainstream, I understand the concerns.

      Apparently, there’s nothing good about our community in this online content. Which has got me thinking. Whats really going on? This is sinister. It seems too concerted especially when it concerns our “Kashmiri” background thats triggering these guys. Some of the profiles are definitely made up. Why all this hatred? Are we really to believe British Pakistanis generated all of it?

      If they did, then, we need to start asking questions about this shared Pakistani community we belong to in the UK? Like you said, I thought we were one community?

      What’s the solution though?

      I did the google search “Mirpuris”, brother my hair stood up. YouTube, Google, Twitter, anything to do with Azad Jammu Kashmir, or Mirpur, trolls are making comments about our community in a very unsolicited way. Clearly they are looking for this content. Some of the comments seem weird to me. I think some of these people are Trolls, possibly not from Pakistan, also pretending to be from the Valley of Kashmir, to create disinformation on the Kashmir conflict between us Muslims? There are major anxieties over Kashmir and lets face it, we come from Kashmir, and so these trolls dont want us to express our views on the Divided State especially if it goes against the Indian, Pakistani narratives. So they want to put us into their little boxes, divide and rule, and keep us separated. By creating divisions between us and the “real” Kashmiris even though most of us in Britain say we’re Pakistanis and happily too lolol.

      So they put words in the mouths of Valley Kashmiris, insulting us as fake Kashmiris, when we know what they are doing because they want a reaction, so we insult our people from the Valley.

      Of course some BRITISH Pakistanis are also involved in this, but to what extent? When they slander us, they always make mention we are from Mirpur or AJK. Why do they do that?

      Also, there’s definitely some British caste-Kashmiris from mainland Pakistan involved in some of the gripes who I genuinely feel sorry for because of what their parents have taught them and what they haven’t taught them about their “real” backgrounds.

      But that is a different story, after all, we need to be against all types of social stigma. And lots of caste-Kashmiris come from our region, so they are us and we need to educate them. This is true for Patwaris, they need educating.

      As for the Pakistanis involved in this anti-Mirpuri crap. I’m saying, by going on the offensive, what will that achieve? Paharian, one of the post writers here, wrote a poem cussing them about their arrogance and their delusions, but what will that achieve? It gave me a chuckle, but what will that achieve?

      I cant see how going on the offensive is going to solve anything my brother, The writers here seem balanced, your comments are balanced, but how do we resolve this problem if we continue to say we are British-Pakistanis?

      Thats my view on all this anti-Mirpur SLANDER.

      • Its not Indian trolls because pakistanis do make remarks like the ones we read online, so it’s not right to blame Indian trolls. Whatever Indians are saying, they are saying that because pakistanis said that about Mirpuris. Its easy to blame Indians, but its the Pakistanis who started this hatred against Mirpuris.

        Might be good idea to produce this online content so AJK community can appreciate this Pakistani anti-Mirpuri hatred.

        Salam

      • “I cant see how going on the offensive is going to solve anything my brother, The writers here seem balanced, your comments are balanced, but how do we resolve this problem if we continue to say we are British-Pakistanis?”

        We are not British Pakistani. We are British Pahari. Very simple AJK is not part of Pakistan but a disputed territory. As per the constitution of Pakistan, Mirpuris are not Pakistani, so why self-affirm as Pakistanis in the UK. We all have relative on both sides, but the fact remains we can’t be claiming what we are not. Brit-Pakistanis are well aware of the racism against Mirpuris so what exactly are they doing about it???? Nothing. Mirpuris are not Pakistani and as long as they identify as Pakistani, every bad Pakistani or Asian will be called “Mirpuri”. We are British-Pahari, not British-Pakistani.

  7. I should add we should understand this content to appreciate what is happening not to hate Pakistanis.There are some pakistanis who endlessly blame us for everything and they go online to say this. This content will show them why they shouldn’t blame mirpuris to get themselves off the hook. Its a big problem because South Asians accept whatever they’re told by other Pakistanis. And this is creating resentment now.

  8. If you want to learn about Mirpur’s history or the history of Jammu & Kashmir and surrounding areas, don’t EVER EVER go to WIKIPEDIA.

    You have to learn the traditional way – consult books written by scholars, professional historians etc.

    Wikipedia is a junkyard for outdated ideas; the people who write about Mirpur, Azad Jammu Kashmir, Kashmir Diaspora etc are propagandists. They are called Wikipeddlers, they peddle anecdotes, fairy tales, propaganda, and present them as facts, they even mesquite the books they cite. Because Kashmir is contested between India and Pakistan, these WIKIPEDDLERS, usually Indians and Pakistanis, don’t come from AJK, so they want to write us out of our history, our region. They r now being exposed slowly.

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